Since one of the goals of particular missions is to build a more idea city I am curious as to what people think should be done to build it. The most ideal form might be that of a custom built city starting roughly in the middle of nowhere and moving as many likeminded people in as possible. However the economics of such a move would be very difficult so what thoughts are there on how to get started and where might be an ideal location?
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Hi Athena!
have you had a chance to check out our project inside the SpaceShip Earth mission called Titanium Shores?
https://spacedecentral.net/missions/titanium-shores
Look forward to seeing you there!
Athena I am glad you are interested in this topic!
My thoughts are that the first location will be driven by the initial settlers. We'd have to do a survey of the nationalities and desired locations in the world they'd like to settle, and cross that with the upfront investment each individual would be willing to make. The settlers would be driving the fundraising. The second level of funding would come from people that identify with the vision, yet not enough to change their life and move there, but perhaps they'd like a timeshare / hotel / vacation package of sorts.
But like Brayden said, we are calling this model city Titanium Shores
for now. There can be different visions or versions of this though! This thread here touches on some of these initial questions and ideas:
https://spacedecentral.net/forum/posts/who-owns-the-village-and-where-should-it-be-located
Since one of the most difficult aspects of site selection (on Earth) is choosing the right jurisdiction, the idea of seasteading appeals to me by somewhat simplifying the legal side of things while balancing security and access to resources.
Regardless of the location, though, I would hope that it can function at any scale. Saudi Arabia's Jeddah Economic City
and Dubai are examples of what can happen with ginormous investment.
Any locations that you have in mind Athena?
I would second this motion for seasteading. In addition to the isue of jusrisdiction, not to mention issues of land ownership, this could allow our constituency to engage in the same prospective activities that they might expect to pursue in space.
The oceans remain largely unexplored, offering a wealth of scientific disciplines to pursue. The oceans are also a rather wealthy source of resources to tap. The oceans provide an environment with many of the same, or similar, obstacles to solve, including establishing residences where there is no land to build a foundation, and adapting daily activities to a new environment.
We could develop a seastead colony following the same progression that we would use for the space-based colonies. We can train astronauts
, performing the same kinds of labour at sea as they would perform in space (water training is already a staple for astronaut training), including resource extraction (mining) operations, refinement & processing, fabrication, construction & assembly, resource and asset deployment, infrastructure development, community development, etc.
I've had thoughts about this too. It occurred to me that we should live in a location that offers some amount of danger to get a good idea about how people will behave under duress. We need to build a culture that is anti-authoritarian, since many people will attempt to justify authoritarianism by claiming that a single mistake could kill us all. I propose that we attempt to build in Svalbard, Norway, an island that allows VISA-FREE immigration from around the world and no small amount of danger due to the low temperatures.